I'm thinking of putting up the old 12 gauge slug gun and turning in for a rifle this year. I'm recently in the process of buying a Remington Versa Max 12 gauge, which make my funds very limited. I'm looking to spend around $250-$400 on a rifle. Obviously I'd go lower also. What gun would you guys suggest I buy to use during Indiana deer firearms season for around that price?
Well, in a previous post i told about my guns getting stolen. One of them was a .357mag rifle. I am going to replace it with the same and ream it out for the .357 max. I'm not a reloader but I guess I will have to be if I do this. Another option that is popular is getting it re-chambered for the .380. I believe this can all be done on your budget with an H&R Handi Rifle. The ream job on the .357 max is supposed to be fairly easy and really make the gun accurate from what I have read.
I shoot the H&R 12 gauge bull barrel and have no issues shooting it out to 200 yards. With a lot of practise 250 would be doable. You are losing a lot of energy but that big slug is still going to pound that deer at 200 yards.
As for joeyb turning to a rifle, for the money and accuracy I will not trade my H&R for anything. Just my opinion.
Most of my motivation is that this gun is going to be what my 7 yr old son will hunt with. He only weighs 45 lbs but he did get to shoot the .357 mag before it was stolen. He did fine with it as there is little recoil. If I was buying only for me I would most likely just buy the .44 mag. I do like this .357 max idea though. But if I was this guy I would just go with the .44 mag.
The H&R 44mag is a great deal, very accurate within reasonable ranges, and the most user friendly for an off the shelf gun. Shells are easy to find, reasonably priced, and almost anything will kill a deer that is factory loaded. BUT, most shells have pretty good recoil for a little guy. I have 3 god children, 8yo twin boys and 10yo girl, and I have to handload light recoilers for them, but they are all small framed. I use 8gr H-Universal and either a 240gr xtp or 250gr Kieth style hard cast, and they kill deer just fine. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Post by schoolmaster on Oct 23, 2012 9:41:40 GMT -5
The handi-rifles can be set up with a youth stock that shortens the pull for young shooters. The .357 mag cartridge in a RIFLE is very effective with a 158 grain non hollow point bullet. Gets complete penetration at a measured 68 yards on a nice doe. You can use .38 specials for practice. My 8 yr old grandson took his first deer with with the .357 handi off shooting sticks. You could always buy a 44 down the road when he gets bigger. You also could just get a 44 barrel from the factory or ream to .357 max. also a very effective cartridge out to 200 yards on deer. The handies are a reasonably priced, effective deer rifle. The only drawback is they come without sites so you have to scope them.
I have an H&R .357 that I reamed to maxi, as well as a CVA scout in .44 mag. I like 'em both, and they both will shoot within a couple of inches at 100 yards. Of course, if you go the maxi route, you'll likely have to reload for it.
Even without going to maxi, the .357 mag is quite capable of taking deer.